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[Sharlikran]

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What does Wrye Bash do?

• It makes it safe to try out new mods because it will restore everything to the way it was when you uninstall a mod
• It makes more mods compatible with each other by importing information from different mods into a "bashed patch"
• It allows you to exceed the 255 mod threshold by automatically merging some types of mods for you

FAQ:

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• What the heck do all these acronyms mean?
  Yeah, to save typing, we often sling around terminology that can be confusing to newcomers. Here's a quick rundown of what we mean:
  
  • WB: Wrye Bash. Written in Python.
  • WBSA: Wrye Bash Standalone. Wrye Bash packaged with the required Python interpreter and all dependencies into one neat executable package. Still internally runs on Python, but since the interpreter is internal to the exe, no Python components are required to be installed.
  • PBash: A Bashed Patch built with the "classic" Python mode patchers. These patchers read, process, and write mod records all in Python.
  • CBash: (1) A Bashed Patch built with the CBash (see #2) mode patchers. These patchers still do mod processing in Python, but utilize CBash.dll to do the file reading and writing.
  • CBash: (2) A C++ written DLL with a C API, that is used for reading and writing ESP/ESM format files. This is the only part of Wrye Bash not written in Python (well, except for calls to 7z.exe to extract things).
  • The practical benefits of using CBash are:
  • Building the bashed patch is much faster
  • More plugins are mergeable, giving you the ability to cram more goodness into the game
  • In the future, more interesting kinds of tweaks will be practical to implement
• BAIN: BAsh INstaller. You use it from the WB Installers tab
• BAIN archive: A mod released in a format that can be installed by BAIN
• BAIT: Bash Asynchronous Installer Tab. In development (pre-beta) and will replace the current implementation of BAIN. Will use multi-threading to have a UI that still responds while it processes data (calculates CRC's, installs mods, etc).

Download: Skyrim Nexus or Oblivion Nexus and of course SourceForge

Documentation:

• Official General Readme (also included in the download as "Wrye Bash General Readme.html" in the Mopy folder)
• alt3rn1ty's Wrye Bash Pictorial Guide
• Metallicow's BAIN Demo Wizard
• Translated documentation and guides: 简体中文

Requirements and Installation: Short version: just use the installer and install to the Skyrim folder! When you install dependencies, just install them to their default locations.
Long version:

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There are two versions available: the Python version and the Standalone version. They are functionally equivalent. Most people should run the Standalone version since it is slightly simpler (no external Python components to install). You should to install the Python version, however, if you want to be more involved with development or if you already have Python installed on your system for other reasons.

First, if you're using Windows XP, Wrye Bash needs the MSVC++ 2005 SP1 Redistributable with ATL Security Update installed, the x86 version. This is required for the custom 7z executable that Wrye Bash uses to run. Later versions of Windows already have this installed.

If you're using the Standalone version, the only other thing you need to install manually is the MSVC++ 2008 Redistributable.

If you are using the Python version, dependency installation will be handled automatically by the installer. However, if you want or need to do things manually:

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• Python 2.7.3
• wxPython 2.8.12.1 unicode for Python 2.7
• comtypes 0.6.2
• PyWin32 for Python 2.7
• PIL 1.1.7 Win32 for Python 2.7
• Other setups may work, but this is the only officially supported setup.
• Python 3.x: NOT supported

Note that the 32-bit versions are required even if you are on a 64-bit operating system

Then:

• For manual installations of either the Standalone or Python versions, extract the archive in your Skyrim game folder so that the Mopy directory appears in the Skyrim directory
• For Python versions, run by double-clicking on Wrye Bash Launcher.pyw
• For WBSA (Wrye Bash StandAlone), run by double-clicking on Wrye Bash.exe

Remember! In Windows Vista and up, don't install Skyrim in the Program Files folder due to User Account Control! See File Permissions.
See Also File Permissions

Development:
The project is hosted at SourceForge. You don't need a SourceForge account to create or add data to bug reports and feature requests -- you can always contribute anonymously (but put your name in the comments section if you want credit : ). Feeling brave? SVN versions are not guaranteed to be release quality, but if you know what you're doing and want to help us test new features and track down bugs, follow alt3rn1ty's SVN guide to use the latest code:

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If going from Standalone version to Python version, use the latest installer to install the Python version before continuing. It will install all required dependencies for you.

The latest svn is always here >>Click and Bookmark it<< - Then just click "Download GNU Tarball" at the bottom. Note: If you have been told to try a specific revision number instead of the latest, type the revision number in the sticky revision box and press return, the Download GNU Tarball will now grab that revision's set of files.

Use >>this link<< to view the log of changes for reference to specific revision numbers and their changes, to revert to as necessary if things go wrong...

A screenshot walkthrough:
Screenshot 1
Screenshot 2
Screenshot 3
Screenshot 4
Screenshot 5
Screenshot 6
Screenshot 7
Screenshot 8

Rinse and repeat when a new svn comes out.

Beware: Its a good idea to rename the tarball according to the revision number and keep it around. Keep a few weeks worth of them so if there is a problem found later with a particular set of committed files in the tarball you can go back to a previous known good revision. There's no need to go back this far but note svn revision 1309 was the directory structure change, and if you go back to a revision earlier than that you will probably have to follow this post to get WB running again.

Reporting Bugs: Try to give us enough information to diagnose your problem. The following information is useful to us:

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• What version of Wrye Bash are you using? If you're using the SVN, be sure to include the revision number.
• What game are you running Wrye Bash for?
• What are all the symptoms? Be sure to include what you did (step-by-step is helpful), what you expected, and what happened.
• What do you see? Error messages are very valuable to us.
• What version of Windows are you using? Is UAC enabled and is Skyrim in the default directory? (If it is, please install it somewhere else. This can cause lots of problems)
• Are you using a bash.ini? If so, include its contents (in spoiler tags, please!)
• Is the problem related to the Bashed Patch? If so include the following:
  
• Your Load Order (in spoiler tags). Get this by right clicking on a column header in the Mods tab, and selecting 'List Mods...'
• Your Bashed Tags (in spoiler tags). Get this by right clicking on a column header in the Mods tab, and selecting 'List Bash Tags...'
• Your Bashed Patch config (in spoiler tags). Get this by right clicking on the Bashed Patch and selecting 'List Patch Config...'

Linking: If you'd like to link to Bash from somewhere else, please do! But be sure to link to either Skyrim Nexus, TESNexus, or SourceForge. Don't link to the actual download file, since that changes fairly frequently.

Related Projects:

• The Official Wrye Bash for Oblivion thread.
• Load orders should be managed with BOSS for Skyrim, which also supplies updated lists of tags used for importing (though even if you don't use BOSS, a basic taglist is shipped with each version of Wrye Bash)
• Valda ported and maintains Wrye Bash for Fallout3 (Wrye Flash) and Fallout3 New Vegas (Wrye Flash NV)

Changelog for Latest Version:
300 [2012/08/09] [Various community members]

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• Fix for a reported Unicode bug. [Metallicow]
• Mod indices not updating after re-ordering mods. [trira]
• Updated bash_default.ini to help with some of the Oblivion specific stuff. [cdcooley]
• Numerous WizBAIN updates. [Metallicow]
• Updated splash screen code. [cdcooley]
• Installer script and forum post updates for PIL dependency. [alt3rn1ty]
• Fixed Bash not loading if loadorder.txt or plugins.txt do not exist. [wrinklyninja]
• Relocated tool images to a new tools folder. [Metallicow]
• Calls to os.startfile changed to webbrowser.open for URLs for cross-platform compatibility. [Metallicow]
• Updated regex handling for Nexus files. [trira]
• Added install warning for SkyProc patchers (Skyrim) [Daidalos]
• Enhancement 3530356 - enable BAIN support for Automatic Variants packages. (Skyrim) [Daidalos]
• Enhancement 3539241 - Ability to copy plugins / installer-archives to clipboard from wrye bash. [Daidalos]
• Updated BAPI for compatibility with BOSS 2.1. [wrinklyninja]
• Some memory cleanup code to help with the BAIN tab eating up so much RAM. [Lojack]
• Bash will no longer fail to start if the language locale cannot be determined. [Lojack]
• Cleanup of old code, fixed some variable names with typos. [Lojack]
• Possible fix for the bug where Wrye Bash throws an error about ghosted files being missing when a mod is uninstalled via BAIN. [wrinklyninja]
• Moved the two readme templates and the two css files from Data\Docs to Mopy\Docs since they are static files. [Arthmoor]

It looks small but it's definitely a major improvement.

Edited by Sharlikran, 20 October 2012 - 08:36 PM.

[Arthmoor]

Bug tracking and progress towards next release Here's a rundown of what the next release will contain, as well as a list of all known bugs and requested enhancements. Links lead to the sourceforge tracker artifacts. If you have information or opinions pertaining to any particular bug or enhancement, please comment at the tracker link. If you have screenshots or sample files, you can attach them (or links to them) to the trackers too. Any information helps! Users who have reported bugs and are updating from svn: please check the following for any closed/fixed bugs (indicated with a strikethrough). Confirmation of the fix would be much appreciated.

Upcoming release 302: Bug fixing

• Bug 235 BAIN does not report corrupted archives while installing them.
• Bug 233 Bash scrambles load order if more than one file is deleted per session.
• Bug 201 [Skyrim] Has More Directories does not stick to packages.
• Bug 168 Mod Checker reports ITM and UDR for mods that are clean.
• Bug 163 BAIN does not refresh on change of CRCs in Projects
• Bug 167 Error with Race Tweaks building bashed patch.
• Bug 142 INI Edits/tweaks must be in ANSI (UTF-8 with BOM fails)
• Bug 137 [Oblivion] upgrading from 291 to 295 may cause Oblivion.esm ghosting
• Bug 122 Progress bar disappears while autoannealing
• Bug 56 [Oblivion] just opening Wrye Bash causes Oblivion CTD (possibly solved)
• Bug 102 [Oblivion] CTDs if spells imp from FCOM_Convergence (possibly solved)
• Bug 230 [Oblivion] Bash resets timestamps on files without being asked to

Additional known bugs:

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• Bug 3535827 BAIN ignores package Data folder if Docs is sibling
• Bug 3535828 UI sometimes forgets panel sizes
• Bug 3535829 Refresh error when launching Skyrim
• Bug 3535832 Error occurs when applying BCF
• Bug 3535833 CBash does not import Face Data, Hairs or Eyes
• Bug 3535835 Load order breaks when uninstalling then reinstalling plugin
• Bug 3530378 [Oblivion] Item Interchange files generate patch errors.
• Bug 3530366 [Skyrim] Bashed Patch building crashes when AV present.
• Bug 3414919 Mods flicker on mouse over [lojack5]
• Bug 3414715 Possible CBash patcher bugs
• Bug 3331937 CBash: Using C.Name blocks other cell record changes [lojack5]
• Bug 3415244 Invalid FormIDs breaking the patch
• Bug 3530353 [Skyrim] Clicking on Installers tab generates error.
• Bug 3530357 BAIN error during mod installation
• Bug 3530373 Export Names -&--#62; Reimport File. Bash does nothing.
• Bug 3530374 [Skyrim] Error when trying to Import FormIDs
• Bug 3530375 [Skyrim] Export Names does not work with Skyrim.esm
• Bug 3530376 Export Stats does not work with Skyrim.esm
• Bug 3530381 Unhandled exception encountered processing mismatched BCFs
• Bug 3530382 Mods tab lists BAIN archive on files where the BAIN is gone.
• Bug 3530383 Corrupts the description of mods after saving it in Cyrillic
• Bug 3456263 Program freeze and loss of work
• Bug 3425987 Scroll bar menu must be global
• Bug 3411634 Bash Memory Problems
• Bug 3410269 Issue with certain format INI files.
• Bug 3402087 Tweak Actors: Vanilla Beast Skeleton Tweaker broken
• Bug 3388557 CBash: Possible spell patcher problem (need more info)
• Bug 3385296 error handling for bosh.initSettings is flawed

Current enhancement requests:

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• Enhancement 3537430 Refactor Code
• Enhancement 247 [Skyrim/Fallout] Update ESMify function to generate ONAM subrecords
• Enhancement 3537477 Merge back in Wrye Flash, Flash NV
• Enhancement 3537431 Replace Wtxt with actual HTML
• Enhancement 3537370 Remove Comtypes Dependency / Move to wxPython 2.9
• Enhancement 3537426 Reimplement Groups [BALO/Exclusion]
• Enhancement 3537428 Remove Custom Plugin Timestamping
• Enhancement 3536511 Refactor Generic Launchers
• Enhancement 3536509 Mopy\Apps launchers improvements
• Enhancement 3539226 The ability to drag an archive into BAIN from Explorer.
• Enhancement 3413533 INI Edits: Hide invalid tweaks [lojack5]
• Enhancement 3413532 Auto-add INI's installed by BAIN to the INI Edits Tab [lojack5]
• Enhancement 3413519 UI usability improvements - stage 1
• Enhancement 3411726 Make wbsa the default installer choice
• Enhancement 3407019 highlight but don't select unconfigured mods on bp import [myktaylor]
• Enhancement 3406435 Add help icon in bashed patch dialog
• Enhancement 3393119 mod with new, deleted records is still mergeable [waruddar] (Partial fix for Python mode done by PacificMorrowind)
• Enhancement 3385784 Remove BALO
• Enhancement 3103903 Hijackthis for Oblivion.
• Enhancement 2997330 View details of a BCF [waruddar]
• Enhancement 3476805 Skyrim: Renumber Saves
• Enhancement 3532383 BAIN packaging of project data into a BSA
• Enhancement 3495819 Cancel a package install
• Enhancement 3487656 Preview of 'Clean Data'
• Enhancement 3479506 'Auto-Anneal' like functionality for changes
• Enhancement 3475090 Readme's with name of archive
• Enhancement 3472028 Sync to Data - for archives
• Enhancement 3471635 Automatic 'Plugin Encoding' detection
• Enhancement 3471619 Hide some "always recommened" Bashed Patch options
• Enhancement 3467881 'Hide' feature requests
• Enhancement 3467396 SEFF icon tweaker
• Enhancement 3467395 New skip: Skip Silent Voices
• Enhancement 3467154 Per-plugin encodings
• Enhancement 3462945 install conversions per drag and drop
• Enhancement 3462054 BAIN/BAIT UI suggestiongs
• Enhancement 3455468 Update from file
• Enhancement 3446770 NMM integration
• Enhancement 3439187 Reverse view of the data files
• Enhancement 3439136 NoMerge Tag that does not imply Deactivate
• Enhancement 3438579 Customizable locations - oblivion.ini, plugins.txt and saves
• Enhancement 3437929 Move vanilla files to special package instead of overwriting
• Enhancement 3437922 Jump from mod list to corresponding installer
• Enhancement 3437918 Portable source version of Wrye Bash
• Enhancement 3437914 Actually visible installer selection highlight
• Enhancement 3436179 Create original file cache against overwrites
• Enhancement 3436064 Installation of DLLs outside of obse\plugins
• Enhancement 3425443 Dockable status bar buttons
• Enhancement 3423164 INIzer support
• Enhancement 3418026 Installer should prompt to update out-of-date deps
• Enhancement 3412774 only mark mergeable when we have to
• Enhancement 3411323 Standard bashed patch name should be Bashed Patch.esp
• Enhancement 3411283 Make it more obvious how to rebuild a bashed patch
• Enhancement 3408190 organize tweakers by semantics instead of implementation
• Enhancement 3408172 Import/export ACBS.stats
• Enhancement 3406403 Italicize bashed patch settings in non-default states
• Enhancement 3404131 Add selection information to List Subpackages command
• Enhancement 3403229 prompt to see if user wishes to remove crc-mismatched files
• Enhancement 3402841 implement ini-configurable text styles
• Enhancement 3400520 Make tone imports optional in face import tool
• Enhancement 3400506 More user-friendly INI Edits tab
• Enhancement 3400500 startup tips
• Enhancement 3400496 List unmanaged files
• Enhancement 3400495 Associate extra files with BAIN packages
• Enhancement 3400296 Automatically build bashed patch after BAIN installation
• Enhancement 3400289 Autorun BOSS after BAIN installation
• Enhancement 3400256 .esm files should always be considered bashable
• Enhancement 3397660 Autoactivate mods after installation
• Enhancement 3396026 Better understanding of the .ess file format
• Enhancement 3395297 Automatic bug reporting
• Enhancement 3395286 Alchemy potion auto-renamer for save game
• Enhancement 3393346 Visually indicate that a BCF is missing files
• Enhancement 3391651 Remove masters?
• Enhancement 3391647 Friendlier UI: create menu bar
• Enhancement 3391289 no warn ab dirty mods that BOSS says should not be cleaned
• Enhancement 3390846 Automatically enforce MustBeActiveIfImported tag
• Enhancement 3388155 Add "Advanced" tweak where power users can alter GMSTs
• Enhancement 3387324 Persist bash.ini settings across updates
• Enhancement 3387004 One-click mod cleaning
• Enhancement 3384252 EOL non-CBash patchers
• Enhancement 3383924 Threaded installer
• Enhancement 3383351 BAIN Package Update Checker
• Enhancement 3383346 BAIN BSA Conflict Support
• Enhancement 3380401 Rename "Clean Data" to "Move unowned data files to project"
• Enhancement 3380280 Revamp hidden files system
• Enhancement 3379910 BAIN interaction with modified INIs
• Enhancement 3379905 Have deleted files go to the Recycle Bin
• Enhancement 3349242 Allow uninstalling of files not installed by a package.
• Enhancement 3333426 Launchers for Oblivion/Data in file manager; conscribe log
• Enhancement 3333419 package metadata file
• Enhancement 3329193 "NoMerge" including "Deactivate" semantics is unintuitive
• Enhancement 3314401 Have BAIT show an image for packages
• Enhancement 3314399 dnd text/text files into the BAIN comments
• Enhancement 3168471 Move mods docs to Docs\
• Enhancement 3149179 Bypass AutoRefresh: AutoRefresh on SHIFT-release if needed.
• Enhancement 3140786 Import faces to NPCs within save files, and ESP
• Enhancement 3139535 SubPkg names beside ESP & Data-tab itms +SubPkg Conflicts
• Enhancement 3139504 Multi-part/volume archive support (7z)
• Enhancement 3127326 BAIN install order list improvements
• Enhancement 3117381 Tweaker: zero the disposition of Crime victims and witnesses
• Enhancement 3101356 Change the way NpcFaces and NpcFacesForceFullImport work
• Enhancement 3099804 Keep info about installed pkgs when source pkgs disappear
• Enhancement 3092291 Autoupdate/rollback functionality
• Enhancement 3092281 OMOD support
• Enhancement 3091563 Visual resource conflict browser
• Enhancement 3091504 Redesign UI for Installers Tab
• Enhancement 3059673 Each profile has its own data
• Enhancement 2998602 Associate readme's with BAIN packages
• Enhancement 2998601 Rename installed files
• Enhancement 2985605 Restructure Bash directories
• Enhancement 2985295 Customizable Hidden installer directory
• Enhancement 2985293 Relocate Bash Files
• Enhancement 2985278 New Container Bash Tag
• Enhancement 2985275 Sub-package file filtering panel
• Enhancement 2985271 NoTweaks Bashed Tag
• Enhancement 2985270 Development Tab
• Enhancement 2985267 Doc Browser
• Enhancement 3530355 BAIN forces install of package with single subpackage.
• Enhancement 3530385 Add option to not use profile-specific load orders.
• Enhancement 2902924 Compare scripts between mod versions
• Enhancement 3336961 properly support non-Unicode Files

Edited by Arthmoor, 02 November 2012 - 02:53 PM.

[alt3rn1ty]

Anyone else having problems accessing oblivionworks ?, I dont have any page load problem with sourceforge, just when trying to look at the svn files.

Edit: Ah found it, http://sourceforge.n...e-services-down currently still being investigated

Edited by alt3rn1ty, 23 October 2012 - 11:38 AM.

[deaths_soul]

Yep. I think SourceForge is having issues, as I get similar issues with other projects.

[Psymon]

Is there any specific code or set of numbers that a mod package has to have to be able to open its download page on TESAlliance?

I was going through my packages checking for updates on Nexus and saw that economics of skyrim was hidden there, so I tried to open at Alliance and got instead Valus Cottage.

So somewhere in the chain is a problem or something.

[edit] actually several mods are misdirecting. Extensible Follower Framework mod goes to BOSS nexus page as an example.

Edited by Psymon, 24 October 2012 - 04:36 AM.

[Psymon]

Sorry for double post - new issue. Still using the 301 from the installer that was posted here a week or so back. Any important updates I should be aware of?

Reneer's latest crime mod is reported by bash as corrupt/unrecognized. Yet - it is not even viewed in the mods pane - is that normal? I don't recall that being the case with past mods - you could still see the plugins from what I recall.

Feature or bug?

reported this to Reneer here.

[edit] this problem solved with reupload of Reneer's mod, but there may still be a problem with zero length esp not showing up in mods pane.

Actually it didn't uninstall with BAIN either when I tried.

Edited by Psymon, 24 October 2012 - 07:19 AM.

[Thomas Kaira]

Is there any specific code or set of numbers that a mod package has to have to be able to open its download page on TESAlliance?

I was going through my packages checking for updates on Nexus and saw that economics of skyrim was hidden there, so I tried to open at Alliance and got instead Valus Cottage.

So somewhere in the chain is a problem or something.

[edit] actually several mods are misdirecting. Extensible Follower Framework mod goes to BOSS nexus page as an example.

I never hid EOS, the Nexus page bugged out on you.

It's been doing that quite a lot lately.

[Sharlikran]

alt3rn1ty, I can't remember.. Is there an exe installer of 301 that's all compiled that begginer/novice users can install of version 301 with the recent additions to the "Clean Data" routines for Dawnguard and HearthFire?

[alt3rn1ty]

Back in a minute or two with one ..

[Sharlikran]

LOL Sweet!

[alt3rn1ty]

Fresh off the press ..

Rebuild of the installer from svn 2688 Wrye Bash 301 installer exe

Edit: For anyone with doubts - Yes I did try it out before uploading, overwrote my installation of Standalone and Python version of Wrye Bash, both working

Edited by alt3rn1ty, 24 October 2012 - 01:52 PM.

[trira]

Is there any specific code or set of numbers that a mod package has to have to be able to open its download page on TESAlliance?

I was going through my packages checking for updates on Nexus and saw that economics of skyrim was hidden there, so I tried to open at Alliance and got instead Valus Cottage.

So somewhere in the chain is a problem or something.

Bash uses the file IDs that the Nexus (and TESAlliance) append to the end of the archive. Since you downloaded EOS from the Nexus, you have the Nexus ID in the archive. What you got was whatever file on TESAlliance that has the ID that EOS has on the Nexus, if that made sense to you (it made sense in my head, but less so after I reread it...).

[edit] actually several mods are misdirecting. Extensible Follower Framework mod goes to BOSS nexus page as an example.

That's due to the additional dashes that the author added to the file name (specifically, v3-5-6) when he/she uploaded it.

Edited by trira, 24 October 2012 - 01:54 PM.

[Arthmoor]

Going to close off #221 as unreproducible. I'd love to be able to cut an official release to catch things up to where they are now for Skyrim but #233 is a really big problem and it would be nice to have it solved before doing so.

[trira]

#233 in the second post points to bug #201.

[Arthmoor]

#233 in the second post points to bug #201.

Not anymore, thanks

[trira]

Well, I have a fix (or rather, workaround) for #233. Doesn't fix the underlying issue of the load order going absolutely bonkers, but it's a working workaround.

[Arthmoor]

Well a workaround beats opening Bash nearly every time and finding the load order has scrambled itself because you deleted something that wasn't even active to begin with.

Seems to have done the trick, I deleted several files and the load order remained intact.

Edited by Arthmoor, 24 October 2012 - 02:35 PM.

[Lojack]

Sorry for double post - new issue. Still using the 301 from the installer that was posted here a week or so back. Any important updates I should be aware of?

Reneer's latest crime mod is reported by bash as corrupt/unrecognized. Yet - it is not even viewed in the mods pane - is that normal? I don't recall that being the case with past mods - you could still see the plugins from what I recall.

Feature or bug?

By design. Any file that is corrupted Bash hides so you cannot accidentally activate it and cause CTDs (the logic of including a check to see if is corrupt would add some complication to the activating routines, so easier just to hide it).

@Arthmoor, I've been working on something I can't believe I hadn't thought of before (NMM to Wrye Bash adapter basically), almost done and pretty simple, I'll commit it in the next couple days.

[Arthmoor]

Sounds intriguing, what's the basics behind what it does?

[Lojack]

Basically since BAIN already knows all the files, CRCs, and Modification times of every file in the Data folder, you initiate an "External Installation", tell it when you're done, then it Refreshes the Data folder for changes. Then it'll give a little dialog showing the results of those changes, allowing you to exclude files if you want, then pack that to either a Project or Archive, and mark the new installer as Installed.

[trira]

Question for the more Python inclined from someone not very Python inclined.

Would this:

if fileName in self[selFile].header.masters:
    self.unselect(selFile, False)

Be better than this:

for master in self[selFile].header.masters:
    if master == fileName:
        self.unselect(selFile,False)
        break

I'd think so, but just making sure.

[Lojack]

Ummm yes, looks like it should work fine as a replacement (and slightly more effecient).

[zone22]

(NMM to Wrye Bash adapter basically), almost done and pretty simple, I'll commit it in the next couple days.

I use Bash for installing and NMM for downloading. Part of the problem is filenames for packages are not always representative of the mod title. NMM automatically renames the packages to the mod title in its database. This kind of information is saved locally. Would it be possible for Bash to scrape off of NMM and rename the packages accordingly?

Forgive me for being a little unclear. I'm not sure how else to state it.

[Lojack]

Probably not no. However, that's not really what this new feature will be doing, it'll be doing exactly what NMM to Wrye Bash Adapter does, it detects changes to the data folder when you install via an external tool, then makes a new installer using that info, you give it the name yourself.

[frihyland]

I use Bash for installing and NMM for downloading. Part of the problem is filenames for packages are not always representative of the mod title. NMM automatically renames the packages to the mod title in its database. This kind of information is saved locally. Would it be possible for Bash to scrape off of NMM and rename the packages accordingly?

Forgive me for being a little unclear. I'm not sure how else to state it.

That data is saved in an xml file for each mod in the NMM cache directory, zipped up with the same filename as original. There is already a program (NMM to Wrye Bash adapter) that does this btw would just be nice to have it done natively.

Edited by frihyland, 24 October 2012 - 11:59 PM.

[Arthmoor]

That workaround for bug 233 didn't work. I just deleted ONE file and the UI scrambled the entire load order again.

[aellis]

Haven't been keeping tab on Bash, so I apologize if this has been discussed and a resolution stated.

I finally brole down and got both Dawnguard and Hearthfires.
Now that I have them, both are showing up in the mods tab with red backgrounds.
According to the Help:
Red background An active plugin that should remain deactivated (ie. tagged with Deactivate) or, for Oblivion only, an active plugin that shares its modification date with another active plugin. This must be corrected so that they have different modification dates or else it may break your load order.

WTH????

Someone please explain... Oh, Wrye SMASH 300(Standalone)

[deaths_soul]

Bash can't yet look inside BSA files for the strings file.

[aellis]

So, what I'm looking at are files that have localization strings?

[Arthmoor]

You'll need to extract the strings folder from the BSAs for both mods and put them in your Data folder.